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Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Tue 19 Nov 2019 17:20
by Audioholic
It’s finally upon us!!!

I’m on my phone so I’m not gonna link to videos and whatnot, but I’m already certain this is the brass library we have all been dreaming of (lol). No, but seriously...it could be good - but it’s expensive!

Also, (and this is not fair to Tom at all) but when Tom speaks I hear the same airheadedness I get from Heidi Klum. All of the sudden I feel like I owe her a bit more respect...because possibly the “dumbass bimbo” vibe I’ve always gotten from her may just be a strange language barrier situation...one that makes her sound like a retard. It’s either that or Tom is also a retard. IDK. OK - of course Heidi is a retard, but you get my point (if not a retard).

In closing, CSB and 8dios Century Solo Brass are both pretty dope.

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Tue 19 Nov 2019 22:16
by Headshot
hahahaha

It's one of the worst brass library I've ever heard (taking into consideration that we are in 2019). There is nothing majectic or epic here, only nasal noises at maximum pawa !

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Wed 20 Nov 2019 01:01
by FriFlo
Uuuh! How delightful! Another round of "experts" on the Spitfire Audio Forum (formerly known as Vi-Control) discussing their "work horse library".
Actually, I don't think it will sound as bad as in this video. That is probably just over-processed. The JXL fan club is probably expecting BRAAMS (not Brahms!) when they hear brass. But the whole trailer is a failure, as that brass doesn't even sound good as a BRAAAM ...
Plus, I really cannot listen to this guy talking ... comparing him to Heidi Klum is an insult to her, even though she really seems to be the most superficial person on the planet. Plus, it is gross to see that illiterate start his "academy". WHAT? He feels destined to educate people? A former DJ who started to take a peek in the world of composing and real music and he wants to teach already? WTF - you really cannot make this shit up. The world is full of pretenders and wannabes and they can be really successful sometimes ...

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Thu 21 Nov 2019 16:35
by Audioholic
FriFlo wrote:
Wed 20 Nov 2019 01:01
Plus, I really cannot listen to this guy talking ... comparing him to Heidi Klum is an insult to her, even though she really seems to be the most superficial person on the planet.
Lol - well to be fair I’d say here in 2019 (thanks to social media) she’s tied with at least....a couple billion people at this point.

I’m assuming what we have heard so far is the JXL Mix. It does sound very bad. Curious what the raw samples sound like. Initially I think he was saying he wasn’t just doing “EPIC!” However, for the price and the huge size of the library - it’d have to be pretty damn amazing for me to fork over the cash. I’ve been enjoying CSB and Century Brass (I only snagged the solo), so the brass itch has been scratched for me for the time being.

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Fri 6 Dec 2019 23:25
by sherlock
First walkthrough is available. Sounds much better than the buzzy teaser.

https://youtu.be/DYuFFKowV_w

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Fri 6 Dec 2019 23:33
by Audioholic
Only just started the video. I’m not sure I like how the articulations bounce around the GUI of their player the way they do when triggered - makes me a bit sea sick lol.

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Sat 7 Dec 2019 08:10
by Headshot
From 0.00 to 0.07 the sound/tone is good, nice mezzo forte/forte but then it gets noisy. I don't like the overblown sound (cuivré in french), the way it was played or recorded. It's too aggressive and short notes/repetitions sound a bit mechanical.
They should not have recorded the highest dynamic range that way. In some way, it reminds me this (the first 30sec) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAmvQ8C2SUo

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Sat 7 Dec 2019 10:40
by FriFlo
You are probably right! While Berlin Brass was just missing one ff layer on the sustains and legatos, this one just has a 5th layer which should rather be a separate patch, as it doesn’t go well with the other 4 layers as a crossfade. Orchestral tools should have rather modified and updated their existing Berlin Brass instead of this library. It doesn’t sound all bad, which is no surprise, of course (well, the first teaser was probably programmed by JXL himself ...)! But a BBr update or upgrade would have been great and I would have payed for it, while I will let this one slip for now. It could be helpful at some point to complete the missing parts of BBr, but I am against any HZ or JXL products. Rather do good products without these names ...

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Fri 13 Dec 2019 18:21
by FriFlo
I actually like this. I hate the fact that there is a JXL stamp on it. This and the fact that I would have much preferred a paid upgrade to Berlin brass (up to 4 individual soloists vs that many unnecessarily large ensemble sizes) will keep me from buying it for now ...

https://youtu.be/9QqUy4ly3Vk

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Sat 14 Dec 2019 00:34
by Audioholic
The upper dynamics sound really bad to me. The horns and trumpets especially have a tonal quality that grates on my nerves a bit. I’m also not enjoying the room tone and as an owner of Berlin brass the ambience of most of the short samples has always bothered me. It’s like they have a phaser engaged on those - I’m not confident this library wouldn’t have the same problem.

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Sat 14 Dec 2019 13:20
by Headshot
hm...I don't like it.

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Mon 16 Dec 2019 21:51
by FriFlo
Well, now that there are some demos on the web site, my opinion changed again. I hear all sorts of nasty tones of brass that sound unnaturally and unpleasantly loud - much like the video posted by Sammy. Either most of the demo composers have done a very bad job or the walkthrough has hidden most of the unpleasant sides. Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention to the bad tone of some of the high dynamic layers Or maybe a little bit of both as I find the demos pretty poor for OT standard this time.
Anyway! It is definitively a no-buy for me.

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Tue 17 Dec 2019 15:01
by Audioholic
The funniest part to me is that a member on vi-douchecontrol was basically doxed by moderator Craig Sharmat for daring to say the demos were too hyped hahaha. Looks like the post was deleted (but I have screenshots that prove it).

Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Tue 17 Dec 2019 16:18
by Headshot
lol

The demos sound like my ass (after eating too much beans) :

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Re: Junkie XL BRASS....

Posted: Tue 17 Dec 2019 18:41
by FriFlo
Audioholic wrote:
Tue 17 Dec 2019 15:01
The funniest part to me is that a member on vi-douchecontrol was basically doxed by moderator Craig Sharmat for daring to say the demos were too hyped hahaha. Looks like the post was deleted (but I have screenshots that prove it).
In that case, it is at least not limited to Spitfire! :-) Well, the difference still is this: I have never seen OT interfering with forum talk, even if somebody would rip their products apart.
Spitfire, on the other side, has two teenage-CEOs called Paul and Christian. Especially one of them cannot help but attack anyone who says anything unwanted about their products!
In both cases, Mike Greene and his moderators deleted criticism which is the reason why that forum is a total joke ...