- Those 2 scores are rather old - I'm more a fan of a bunch of his (or nots hi, haha) tracks from 2003 onwards...Best Retards wrote: ↑Thu 17 May 2018 20:27I won't prove anything here, it's just what I think for decades about Zimmer :
everytime I hear an interesting track from him, I'm always suspicious about Hans being the composer of it.
Because .... he wrote Broken Arrow and Miss Daisy, and when I hear these scores, I find the bar so low, it's hard for me to accept he could do better.
But I have no clue that's just my 2 cents.
So when Headshot shows some facts about "I wrote it, hmmm i didn't finally, oh wait I did but, blabla, it explains a lot to me.
Since I heard League of their Own, my first reaction was : 100% sure he couldn't achieve that, even in his next life, alone and I guess I'm not far from reality.
He might have also been rather uninspired, or in a rush with these scores...
- Being or not being the composer of it is maybe a bit harsh. It could for example be that he came up with the basic melody and development but the arrangement and orchestration was (even very significantly) altered by his team.
In that sense, he came up with the idea for the track but it was realized and refined by others. Basically - the track would not exist without him and not be as refined and captivating without his team. That might be going on several times...
One example (even though it's musically very close to the final version) could be one of my favorites, Science and Religion.
Here is a demo of the main section (nothing official here, leaked from somewhere) - which strongly suggests he wrote it... at least the main section.
significant part starts @1:47 in. (God Save Us was the name it had before going on the official album as Science and Religion)
It's still much rougher than the final version***, (@2:14 - 2:22 ugh...) but by and large the notes are the same (a few funny bits and missing notes) - most of the difference is the mix and the sound of the instruments (mediocre samples and homogenized mix).
The solo violin might have just been left out because the samples weren't good enough for this and Hans wanted to just hear Joshua Bell over it straight away.
It could be a rather early demo though because there are a few technically and musically pretty broken parts (the ending and the very beginning) - so he might have even done the entire orchestration and arrangement as it is.
But even assuming he didn't - it would just exemplify what I mean with HZ generally having the ideas and creating the concept of the track and a lot (or in this case most) of the arrangement and then the work of his team kicks in.
I wouldn't always ask whether he wrote it or not. That can be a bit to simple... (Whether you like the present track or not - just in general.)
Final Version with Live musicians. Part from demo @5:15