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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by DarkestShadow » Fri 7 Dec 2018 20:22

FriFlo wrote:
Fri 7 Dec 2018 19:31
DarkestShadow wrote:
Fri 7 Dec 2018 18:22
Yea, he're we're going from same-ishness to craft though.
According to those standards, all music has a lot of "same-nishness". If you look at the wave form, it is more or less just slightly different shapes. Listening to it, it is all just a mix of pitches, aligned to the grid of time. But that of course is a very superficial way of talking about music! At least that you must realize ...
I have no idea what you are reading into this short sequence, but I merely noted that you have talked about musical complexity rather than the same-ishness regarding trailer music, which is a different boat.

That's a trend with you, because you also stated that i cannot discriminate between production and musicality - however I stated nothing that would support that.
Actually I very precisely differentiate between musical quality and production. There are some very well written pieces I've heard that suffer from
The only thing is - I don't really care to differentiate when I'm listening. I'm not thinking then. If I appreciate it in what ever way I'm taking it. Whether it's a musically not so interesting but very well produced piece, or a piece that isn't that well written but very emotionally engaging, or a piece that is well written but poorly produced - those can still engage me enough to appreciate them.

And I'm not really interested in music because I don't think about it like you... yea I see. I only spent 5000 + Euro on tools to produce music rather than movies, games, great food, travels etc and sometimes but I'm actually not really interested in it.

The rest... odd. I think I'll never appreciate music that I can only understand via musical training or something... also not sure what music that is supposed to be. Jazz? I don't feel like I don't understand it - I just don't tend to like what's being done musically. Maybe I indeed don't understand it. But even if I would - there is a old, dusty, clownish and nervous vibe about Jazz that makes me feel hollow - so not sure purely musical "understanding" would help.

Labels cannot condition anyone to anything... how would they do that? You could play me all sorts of pop music with the most fun videos attached to it and 3 Billion views and likes and I'd still end up disliking most of it. It's almost like you apply the blank slate theory to musical taste. And think labels have a super power they can use to brainwash millions of people - in some way...

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by FriFlo » Fri 7 Dec 2018 22:17

DarkestShadow wrote:
Fri 7 Dec 2018 20:22
And I'm not really interested in music because I don't think about it like you... yea I see. I only spent 5000 + Euro on tools to produce music rather than movies, games, great food, travels etc and sometimes but I'm actually not really interested in it.
LOL! So, yeah ... I am just making random assumptions on your part, yet you manage to perfectly prove my point with your veto ... Junior! Spending a lot of dough on sample libraries and whatever may in YOUR philosophy stress the value you give to music. So do most of the guys on VI-Control! But you cannot grasp that this is highly superficial, can you? Darkest Shallow!
I really don't understand why you choose this place instead of (or in addition to?) Vi-Control, which is a perfect match for you! :-)

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Re: Captain Marvel

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by DarkestShadow » Fri 7 Dec 2018 22:42

FriFlo wrote:
Fri 7 Dec 2018 22:17
LOL! So, yeah ... I am just making random assumptions on your part, yet you manage to perfectly prove my point with your veto ... Junior! Spending a lot of dough on sample libraries and whatever may in YOUR philosophy stress the value you give to music. So do most of the guys on VI-Control! But you cannot grasp that this is highly superficial, can you? Darkest Shallow!
I really don't understand why you choose this place instead of (or in addition to?) Vi-Control, which is a perfect match for you! :-)
Take your blood pressure pills mate.
I never said that sample libraries give value to music (they do to some limited extent - good sound makes the listening experience more enjoyable and you are more free to write what you want if you libraries that willingly participate)
Great sample libraries and professional daws are expensive, so yea - you need to spend a lot of money for it to even cover the base, especially when one writes in a bunch of different styles. Wanting good tools to write music with being willing to pass many other pleasures can only be interpreted as shallowness by someone who desperatly tries to diminish a person. Perhaps a person with *triggering* opinions? ;)

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by FriFlo » Fri 7 Dec 2018 22:46

I guess you can read my mind ... :-)

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by FriFlo » Fri 7 Dec 2018 23:00

DarkestShadow wrote:
Fri 7 Dec 2018 22:42
Take your blood pressure pills mate.
Junior, I can't! It would just destroy all the good energy from the viagra I just swallowed. :-) But I am looking forward to our next conversation. Young people are really what keeps old bastards like me goin'!
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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by DarkestShadow » Fri 7 Dec 2018 23:36

FriFlo wrote:
Fri 7 Dec 2018 23:00
Junior, I can't! It would just destroy all the good energy from the viagra I just swallowed. :-) But I am looking forward to our next conversation. Young people are really what keeps old bastards like me goin'!
Old - lol. :P

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Le_Malin » Wed 19 Dec 2018 15:56

Hi everybody,

I'm new on this community, i don't follow VI-Control, i take a look from time to time but that's all.

For me, Hans Zimmer has created his own way, he has created an industry, we're talking about the Hollywood film industry so that means everything.

Some soundtracks with big and massive sound or repetitive notes or "tic-toc" works very well with movies. The problem is that it has become a norm. Zimmer became one of this.

We do the same thing all the time in pop music or urban music. Everytime, the same sound, same beats ... Boring !

Anyway, we must try to do what we love most and meet the demand of "the market" to make a living in this industry.

That's just my opinion :)

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Headshot » Wed 19 Dec 2018 18:07

Le_Malin wrote:
Wed 19 Dec 2018 15:56
The problem is that it has become a norm.
Yes.


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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Best Retards » Fri 21 Dec 2018 20:23

I guess we judge trailer music today as "music".
For me it's been part of Sound Designing process a long time ago.
the word music here doesn't apply but afterall I don't really care anymore.
Best thing to try out is to cut a part of HZ's Superman score and it should fit almost everywhere in these new trailers

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Re: Captain Marvel

Post by Le_Malin » Thu 24 Jan 2019 11:43

Headshot wrote:
Wed 19 Dec 2018 18:07
Le_Malin wrote:
Wed 19 Dec 2018 15:56
The problem is that it has become a norm.
Yes.


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Haha thank you :)

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