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Rebirth

Post by Strickland » Thu 15 Nov 2018 00:23

Hi guys,

Here's my last composition for a short movie :

https://soundcloud.com/mathieu-alvado/rebirth

Performed by the LSO's woodwinds and strings and everything else programmed by Samy



The movie's here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnbULDJAWeI

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Re: Rebirth

Post by Bishop » Thu 15 Nov 2018 09:21

Incredible work, as always, from you guys.

How long were you given to compose this?

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Post by Strickland » Thu 15 Nov 2018 11:16

Thanks Bishop !

it's difficult to answer cause I was working on 2 other short movies and a video game at the same time and there was a lot of changes to do on this one so it was spread on 3 weeks but I spent maybe one full week on it to compose, make the mock up and orchestrate it.

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Post by Bishop » Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:05

Ah, okay. Do you compose into Sibelius / Finale or just on paper? I'm guessing Samy deals with all the DAW stuff?

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Post by Arko » Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:35

Very enjoyable to listen to.
Did you orchestrated everything yourself or was it "corrected" by someone at some point ?
If not, I'm curious about your workflow.

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Post by Strickland » Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:54

Bishop wrote: Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:05 Ah, okay. Do you compose into Sibelius / Finale or just on paper? I'm guessing Samy deals with all the DAW stuff?
Arko wrote: Tue 20 Nov 2018 12:35 Very enjoyable to listen to.
Did you orchestrated everything yourself or was it "corrected" by someone at some point ?
If not, I'm curious about your workflow.

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Thanks guys !

So I searched ideas on keyboard, pencil and paper, then I went on Finale to orchestrate it, then on cubase to do the mock up, sent it to the director, did the changes he asked in the mock up and on Finale until he was ok (this version is the 6th one). After that I recorded the strings, the flutes and the clarinets, sent everything to Samy including some of my programming that I think we kept (omnisphere, percussions and harp if I remember correctly), and my midi file. He programmed everything else (choirs and brass mainly) and he had the idea to add the harp gliss at 1'22, the low voices at 1'27 and he told me that my trumpet line at 1'34 was not strong enough so he added the 2 replies at 1'35 and 1'36. Then he mixed and I sent him my comments (on a rtf file that usually drives him mad).

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Post by Arko » Tue 20 Nov 2018 13:34

That's great ! Thanks for the insight :)
Do you have any idea about the rough budget for making this score ? (including the recording, the composing and such...)
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Post by Bishop » Tue 20 Nov 2018 13:42

Interesting, thanks for the info.

If I may ask one more question, how do you personally like to work out your timings / click tracks? Do you just experiment in Cubase or are you using other tools to calculate it?

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Post by Strickland » Tue 20 Nov 2018 13:56

Arko wrote: Tue 20 Nov 2018 13:34 That's great ! Thanks for the insight :)
Do you have any idea about the rough budget for making this score ? (including the recording, the composing and such...)
10 000€. We had the chance to record it with 2 other projects so the recording cost (studio, orchestra and sound engineer) has been shared.
Bishop wrote: Tue 20 Nov 2018 13:42 Interesting, thanks for the info.

If I may ask one more question, how do you personally like to work out your timings / click tracks? Do you just experiment in Cubase or are you using other tools to calculate it?
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Not sure about what you mean. How to synchronize music on the image while composing ?

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Post by Bishop » Tue 20 Nov 2018 14:10

Strickland wrote: Tue 20 Nov 2018 13:56 Not sure about what you mean. How to synchronize music on the image while composing ?
Sorry, yes, working out the the tempo / syncing to picture. Just wondering how others are doing it.

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Post by Strickland » Tue 20 Nov 2018 14:24

It's very empirical. First, it's the feeling of the music and after I try to adapt things to the picture. For example from 0'30 to 0'55, I tried to obtain a sync asked by the director which implied acceleration or brutal tempo change and finally I cut one bar and try to have nearly the same tempo on this section.

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Re: Rebirth

Post by Bishop » Tue 20 Nov 2018 14:26

I see, thanks (I’m new to scoring).

Right now I’m using a combination of Frans Absil’s tool, my own crappy spreadsheet, and tedious trial-and-error in the DAW.

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Post by Strickland » Tue 20 Nov 2018 15:50

Bishop wrote: Tue 20 Nov 2018 14:26 I see, thanks (I’m new to scoring).

Right now I’m using a combination of Frans Absil’s tool, my own crappy spreadsheet, and tedious trial-and-error in the DAW.
Didn't know this tool but I think the impulse should be from your feeling more than from a calculator. There's enough limitations in this job ;-)

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Re: Rebirth

Post by Raph » Sat 24 Nov 2018 08:22

This string writing: WOW! Clever use of the clarinets. Very impressed. A+ scoring.

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Post by Strickland » Sat 24 Nov 2018 20:09

Thanks Raphael ;-)

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